In this episode, Kathryn McNaughton talks with Marilyn Heaps, one of VCC's Instructional Associates, and a former Department Leader in VCC's Nursing programs. Marilyn reflects on how the nursing profession has changed over her career, some of the challenges of being a Nursing educator, and comments on her retirement from VCC.

Leadership Conversations is hosted by Kathryn McNaughton, who sits down with interesting people from across VCC, exploring who they are and what they do, and gaining insight into their practice.